I agree with most of what you’re saying, but the Republican Party has a problem vetting people. Period. I’m embroiled in a significant lawsuit because a GOP candidate sued me because why? I TOLD THE TRUTH.
It is not just a philosophical argument. When you have felons at all levels of the party. I’m not talking about jaywalkers, I’m talking about indecent liberties with a child X 3 , resisting arrest and three DUIs, felony bad checks (there’s more than one person with this), embezzlement and witness tampering, these aren’t the best, they’re who shows up.
You can call it philosophical if you want to. I don’t.
Very fair. I definitely agree the party has a problem with vetting. I've argued that county party orgs should be able to endorse in primaries. That certainly would NOT cut down on drama, though.
We have a state party chair who did NOT “grow up in N.C. nor in N.C. politics”-he’s from UTAH. He got here because he showed up for MITT ROMNEY. And how many people know that? Almost no one.
This just scratches the surface. As a long time leader in this party, all & I mean ALL of the drama is due to poor leadership at the NCGOP. It is really that simple! There is no strategy. There are no tactics. No one takes responsibility and therefore no one has accountability.
In 2016 I watched Trump supporters turned away from the Wake County Convention, because they didn’t attend precinct meetings. Years later in that same county, we saw a county chair drain the bank account, take the office furniture and the NCGOP - well they did nothing! Or the NCGOP Central Committee meeting under Whatley when the party secretary literally flipped me off during a meeting with no consequence or when that same secretary used profanity toward another leader, lied and there was no consequence.
I had a front row seat as the NC11 District Chair & as a resident of Henderson County. That county chair followed the direction of the NCGOP General Counsel and leadership and the NCGOP threw him to the wolves! Crazy people that didn’t like the ruling went absolutely nuts over the title of Precinct Chair! It was absurd!
No and I mean NO business could ever function if it was modeled after the NCGOP. How does a convicted pedophile host an annual judicial picnic attended by Whatley, Simmons, Newby, both Bergers, etc?? How does an elected Republican endorse a Democrat with no consequence? How does a state party chair unilaterally decide to pay himself $115k/year with no consequence? How do 3 people implement an RNC rule NEVER used in NC to sway a primary with no consequence?
Why do good people walk away from the party? Well, that answer is an easy one! Why would they stay? The spiritual battle is not with the Democrats, it is within the ranks of the GOP & that is what happens when there is no leadership!
My experience witnessing the Cabarrus GOP chaos- factions that probably existed (tea party vs moderates) before Trump exploded after 2016. I know you say county politics is in person, but perpetually online folks drive where some of strategy is pointed (Brian Echevarria is a response of the perpetual online purists/MAGA crowd). And it’s hardly ever oriented towards civility and respect.
I know it can go both ways across politics, but as long as loyalty in the GOP is geared towards purity for a leader who hates his enemies and undermines democratic rules, you’re not going to encourage leaders to turn down the temperature.
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but the Republican Party has a problem vetting people. Period. I’m embroiled in a significant lawsuit because a GOP candidate sued me because why? I TOLD THE TRUTH.
It is not just a philosophical argument. When you have felons at all levels of the party. I’m not talking about jaywalkers, I’m talking about indecent liberties with a child X 3 , resisting arrest and three DUIs, felony bad checks (there’s more than one person with this), embezzlement and witness tampering, these aren’t the best, they’re who shows up.
You can call it philosophical if you want to. I don’t.
Very fair. I definitely agree the party has a problem with vetting. I've argued that county party orgs should be able to endorse in primaries. That certainly would NOT cut down on drama, though.
We have a state party chair who did NOT “grow up in N.C. nor in N.C. politics”-he’s from UTAH. He got here because he showed up for MITT ROMNEY. And how many people know that? Almost no one.
This just scratches the surface. As a long time leader in this party, all & I mean ALL of the drama is due to poor leadership at the NCGOP. It is really that simple! There is no strategy. There are no tactics. No one takes responsibility and therefore no one has accountability.
In 2016 I watched Trump supporters turned away from the Wake County Convention, because they didn’t attend precinct meetings. Years later in that same county, we saw a county chair drain the bank account, take the office furniture and the NCGOP - well they did nothing! Or the NCGOP Central Committee meeting under Whatley when the party secretary literally flipped me off during a meeting with no consequence or when that same secretary used profanity toward another leader, lied and there was no consequence.
I had a front row seat as the NC11 District Chair & as a resident of Henderson County. That county chair followed the direction of the NCGOP General Counsel and leadership and the NCGOP threw him to the wolves! Crazy people that didn’t like the ruling went absolutely nuts over the title of Precinct Chair! It was absurd!
No and I mean NO business could ever function if it was modeled after the NCGOP. How does a convicted pedophile host an annual judicial picnic attended by Whatley, Simmons, Newby, both Bergers, etc?? How does an elected Republican endorse a Democrat with no consequence? How does a state party chair unilaterally decide to pay himself $115k/year with no consequence? How do 3 people implement an RNC rule NEVER used in NC to sway a primary with no consequence?
Why do good people walk away from the party? Well, that answer is an easy one! Why would they stay? The spiritual battle is not with the Democrats, it is within the ranks of the GOP & that is what happens when there is no leadership!
My experience witnessing the Cabarrus GOP chaos- factions that probably existed (tea party vs moderates) before Trump exploded after 2016. I know you say county politics is in person, but perpetually online folks drive where some of strategy is pointed (Brian Echevarria is a response of the perpetual online purists/MAGA crowd). And it’s hardly ever oriented towards civility and respect.
I know it can go both ways across politics, but as long as loyalty in the GOP is geared towards purity for a leader who hates his enemies and undermines democratic rules, you’re not going to encourage leaders to turn down the temperature.
Thanks for the thoughtful response, Ian. I agree that "very online" culture can absolutely seep in, in a negative way.
Is it negative to tell the truth? Really?